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Hi Freddy we are talking about Salvation so we are to be of the same mind but we are not to argue with others about worldly understanding and so I always refrain from doing this, but I will affirm God’s Truth, still I can only plant the seed.
I do not agree with a woman being in Authority over men or teaching in the flesh but I do believe we are all called to share God’s Truth and correct error within our role and I do so under God’s Authority as I learn from Jesus in submission and silence, meaning without argument He is our only Teacher through the empowering of The Holy Spirit and teaches us all things.
As for Jesus being an Angel this is not affirmed in Scripture and was one of the beliefs that Spurgeon had in error, it was passed on by Helen White who plagiarised Theologies Teaching of her time adding her own fleshy understanding. Helen was one of the founders of the S.D.A. who were originally part of the J.W. and sadly they retain a lot of their false teaching. Jesus has showed me in Scripture why it is not True about Him being an Angel which I would be happy to share with you if wanted on this Blog or by e-mail, your choice.
If you can accept this Freddy we will grow and mature together, you have much Truth that I’m in agreement with the rest is to be understood according to revelation from the Lord as confirmed in the Scriptures but please be assured I’m for you not against you I believe that God will use anyone greatly who is seeking Him with all your heart like you do but you need to put away all man’s understanding and ask God for His wisdom and believe you have received it.
Christian Love Anne.
I think you misunderstood me Anne, my Pastor does not believe that Jesus is an angel as the SDA or others do. Angels are created beings. There are different classes of angels, Seraphim, Cherubim etc. Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer/Satan are of the highest class of angels (Cherubs). Depending on the context, angel can also mean messenger as for example in Revelation, to the angel of Sardis write…..which would be the pastor or overseer of the church. The Bible also speaks about the Angel of the LORD (Angel capitalized A ) Who is the pre-incarnate Christ in the OT that appeared to Abraham, Haggar, Moses, Joshua, Balaam and many others. Whenever God appeared to man physically, it was in the person of Christ. It was Jesus that walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. It was Jesus that met with Abraham. It was Jesus that talked to Haggar. There are so many more appearances of Christ in the OT, too many to write them all down now. My Pastor was not dogmatic about Revelation 10 as it’s speaks of the mighty angel. He simply stated that some believe that it speaks of the Lord being this mighty messenger. I for one do not believe that this mighty angel is the Lord. He just gave us different perspectives and commentaries on chapter 10 that are written by various commentators. As I said in my former comment, I do not just believe anything that someone teaches or believes, I am like a Berean and test it for myself with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. My Pastor is a real good teacher and he is a good shepherd over his flock. He has been a Pastor for over 35 years and he always says not to take his word alone but to check it out for ourselves as we study the word. Btw, please let’s not go back and forth on this angel thing. Jesus is not an angel, neither was He created or just a spirit being, He is God in the flesh. I believe that Jesus is the second person of the the triune Godhead, co-equal, co-eternal etc. He always was and always will be. He is the creator and sustainer of all things.
Hi Freddy we are a lot in agreement which I thank God for, Jesus is our only Teacher by the empowering of The Holy Spirit, yes your Pastor is right we are to check the Scriptures for confirmation and a wise Leader or Sheppard will encourage this for correction if needed. God does indeed and has done for many years used the foolishness of preaching, His Truth is everywhere but sadly so are Satan’s lies, they are like a flood seeking to sweep away the Truth…. but God’s Word will last eternally His Truth cannot be polluted only twisted by false and deceived teachers but it will not remain tangled, God has given us many earthly resources to proclaim and uplift His Truth and our Blogs are one of them and thankfully you have others.
Hebrews 1 : 2- 8 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed Heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds; Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on High: Being made so much better than the angels, as He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said He at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son? And again, when He bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, He saith, And let all the angels of God worship Him. And of the angels He saith, Who maketh His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a Sceptre of Righteousness is the Sceptre of thy Kingdom.
As you said Freddy The Godhead, They are One having the same seed Jesus is not an Angel and never was He is The Living Word and The Living Water, our Lord and Saviour, The King of Kings Lord of Lord whose Name or Nature is above all …the Godhead 3 in one.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.
Christian Love Anne
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For the love of God compels us…Christ is us should give us the want to, do to what is good. I think you are right on target here.
Thank you my friend, may the Lord richly bless you.
“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:17
Many people misunderstand what it means to do something by faith. Romans 4:2 was talking about the works of the law of Moses and not the works of faith that justified Abraham (James 2:21-24). The Bible says Abraham was saved by faith because Abraham responded/acted upon the word of God that he was given (Genesis 22:12; 26:5; Hebrews 11:8-12).
To do what God says doesn’t mean a person earns his/her salvation and that’s why Abraham couldn’t boast; nor can anyone today.
I agree Freddy if we think reading our Bible, tithing and going to Church saves us we are in deception but we remember Faith without good works is dead, that is why Jesus said go away you never cared for those who were hurting, hungry or you never visited the sick etc God has prepared good works for us to do and He equips and motivates us to do them, the same as we don’t continue to walk in sin when we are Born again we walk as Jesus did, our lives reflect His indweling presence when we are perfected in Love and we think as He thinks because we have His mind and our choices are the same as His so we don’t choose to sin.
Christan Love from both of us.
I’m not moderating anything and nothing is in my trash! I’m not sure what your problem is, but it starting to annoy me. I don’t like to be accused of something repeatedly that I didn’t do and no one else seem to have problems leaving comments. I will delete your “testing” comments now.
Freedy do you think I enjoy having these problems I could not even post my comment here yesterday it would not let me and yet you have it on your Blog today so you work it out, I believe it may be WordPress Control they have access to every Blog, so lets see what happens in the future but I will be taking Screen shots of all my comments in future
I tried more then once at least 3 times and you can’t do that with imagination and have the same results.
Sorry for your inconvenience if you were in the same situation I would seek to help not abuse. Of course please do remove all Testing comments and this one. Regards Anne
Sorry that you have so many problems, it is not in my settings. Sorry that I was a bit harsh, but my blog is just a side thing that I do and I can’t look at it all the time. I do online ministries for my church and for myself. I maintain and administrate several websites and social media sites besides producing and editing videos for phone apps and online ministry. I hope that you won’t encounter your problem with posting in the future. I assure you that I do not delete any comments unless they are scams or abusive in nature. I had many harsh comment from non-Christians on my other social sites and I left them on their for all to see and in the public court of opinion. Blessings, Freddy.
accept your apology Freddy and I also apologise, I too have been rash in my words with all the problems I have had and there has been much more then I have voiced on my Blog, but now I’m aware what is really happening and will monitor it more closely.
I Love you in the Lord Freddy, your my Brother in Christ Jesus we may not at this time agree on everything but that will be resolved as we seek The Lord together. Please read the link, I hold no animosity personally towards you Freddy or anyone else and never did but sometimes I step back to evaluate a situation and pray about it but I always seek restoration when the time is right, sadly it’s not always received but today is another day.
http://freedomborn.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/what-about-our-brothers-in-the-lord/
I Thank God for our Kingship – Christian Love Anne
You see Anne, that is a beautiful thing, we can agree to disagree on certain issues that are not essential to salvation. At least we as believers in Christ Jesus can have a civilized discussion about things without getting angry or hateful unlike some other religion that I will leave un-named. I just had a disagreement with my friend and pastor the other day about Revelation chapter 10 where he taught that the angel is the Lord. It made some good points and I am studying it. Some of my commentaries do not believe that it speaks of Jesus because of the Greek word “another” which in the concordance says of the same kind as the other angels. Angels are created beings and Jesus is not. He is God, the Great I AM and always existed. However, my Pastor and I had a nice conversation about it and he explained why he believes that it talks about Jesus. I will be like a Berean and look in to it. That does not mean that I don’t like him anymore or think that he is wrong on this particular issue. Sometimes it’s good to raise some questions or write something that not everybody may agree with, but it can also lead to someone seeing it from a different perspective. Peter and Paul disagreed on certain issues and Peter later praised Paul. I gotta run, we have service tonight. Be blessed, Freddy.
Good thoughts.
Thank you Dave,have a blessed day.